Comments on: In Search of PVC-Free Baby Dolls http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls Fri, 03 Feb 2012 04:55:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Lina http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls/comment-page-1#comment-10382 Lina Tue, 17 Jan 2012 06:30:56 +0000 http://www.safbaby.com/?p=645#comment-10382 A few more and I promise, I'll "take a break" after that, :-) 1. Corolle Babipouce Grenadine 12" doll is recommended by your "Gift Guide of safe and non-toxic toys for your baby or toddler" as "Made of PVC-free vinyl and cotton". It is also featured on this page: http://www.safbaby.com/dont-give-the-gift-of-lead-poisioning among Toys "Safe and Non-Toxic for Baby and Child". However, it is not listed as PVC-free among your "Safe PVC-Free and Phthalate-Free Baby Dolls": http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls Could you please explain why? Did the manufacturer change the manufacturing process in-between? HealthyStuff.org lists it as "Medium risk" because of the doll face containing high level of chlorine but no other toxic chemicals they tested for: http://www.healthystuff.org/departments/toys/product.details.php?getrecno=7166 (As I have already asked, I am not sure if it means that it contains PVC.) If Grenadine is recommended, what about other Corolle dolls from the same "category" with "Medium risk" due to similar levels of chlorine but nothing else, like Miss Rose, tested at the same time? (http://www.healthystuff.org/departments/toys/product.details.php?getrecno=7512) 2. Only Paola doll by HABA is listed among "Safe PVC-Free and Phthalate-Free Baby Dolls" but another HABA doll Nelly is featured on the same page (closer to the top, above Paola) as PVC-free as well. http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls Why is it not listed then? I am just trying to understand the "algorithm" behind your recommendations. Besides, my daughter has both, Grenadine and Nelly, so I want to be sure about their safety. Plus, I have been doing this toy safety research for almost six weeks (since early December) and I would really like some "closure". :) Thank you for all your efforts! I really wish I had found your website sooner. A few more and I promise, I’ll “take a break” after that, :-)

1. Corolle Babipouce Grenadine 12″ doll is recommended by your “Gift Guide of safe and non-toxic toys for your baby or toddler” as “Made of PVC-free vinyl and cotton”. It is also featured on this page:

http://www.safbaby.com/dont-give-the-gift-of-lead-poisioning

among Toys “Safe and Non-Toxic for Baby and Child”.

However, it is not listed as PVC-free among your “Safe PVC-Free and Phthalate-Free Baby Dolls”:

http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls

Could you please explain why? Did the manufacturer change the manufacturing process in-between?

HealthyStuff.org lists it as “Medium risk” because of the doll face containing high level of chlorine but no other toxic chemicals they tested for:

http://www.healthystuff.org/departments/toys/product.details.php?getrecno=7166

(As I have already asked, I am not sure if it means that it contains PVC.)

If Grenadine is recommended, what about other Corolle dolls from the same “category” with “Medium risk” due to similar levels of chlorine but nothing else, like Miss Rose, tested at the same time?

(http://www.healthystuff.org/departments/toys/product.details.php?getrecno=7512)

2. Only Paola doll by HABA is listed among “Safe PVC-Free and Phthalate-Free Baby Dolls” but another HABA doll Nelly is featured on the same page (closer to the top, above Paola) as PVC-free as well.

http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls

Why is it not listed then?

I am just trying to understand the “algorithm” behind your recommendations.

Besides, my daughter has both, Grenadine and Nelly, so I want to be sure about their safety.

Plus, I have been doing this toy safety research for almost six weeks (since early December) and I would really like some “closure”. :)

Thank you for all your efforts! I really wish I had found your website sooner.

]]> By: Lina http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls/comment-page-1#comment-10377 Lina Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:05:37 +0000 http://www.safbaby.com/?p=645#comment-10377 A couple of questions. From the info on your website (e.g., the interview with Mike Schade), I am under the impression that PVC-toys contain several toxic chemicals (furans, vinyl chloride, ethylene dichloride, phthalates, mercury, lead, cadmium, and/or organotins), not just chlorine. However, the HealthyStuff.org testing results show only chlorine for several toys discussed here, e.g., Corolle dolls, Bratz Kids, etc.: http://www.healthystuff.org/departments/toys/product.details.php?getrecno=252 http://www.healthystuff.org/departments/toys/product.details.php?getrecno=7512 http://www.healthystuff.org/departments/toys/product.details.php?getrecno=16 Is it due to incomplete reporting? Could you please explain? Some Corolle dolls, like Miss Rose, are made mostly of fabric that seems to be toxin-free and only the face has some chlorine. I think most of the contact is with the body, not the face. So, this may be an uneducated question but don't the kids get more chlorine from swimming in pools than from a chlorine-containing toy (provided they don't put the toy in the mouth)? Thank you! A couple of questions.

From the info on your website (e.g., the interview with Mike Schade), I am under the impression that PVC-toys contain several toxic chemicals (furans, vinyl chloride, ethylene dichloride, phthalates, mercury, lead, cadmium, and/or organotins), not just chlorine. However, the HealthyStuff.org testing results show only chlorine for several toys discussed here, e.g., Corolle dolls, Bratz Kids, etc.:

http://www.healthystuff.org/departments/toys/product.details.php?getrecno=252

http://www.healthystuff.org/departments/toys/product.details.php?getrecno=7512

http://www.healthystuff.org/departments/toys/product.details.php?getrecno=16

Is it due to incomplete reporting? Could you please explain?

Some Corolle dolls, like Miss Rose, are made mostly of fabric that seems to be toxin-free and only the face has some chlorine. I think most of the contact is with the body, not the face. So, this may be an uneducated question but don’t the kids get more chlorine from swimming in pools than from a chlorine-containing toy (provided they don’t put the toy in the mouth)?

Thank you!

]]> By: Lina http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls/comment-page-1#comment-10373 Lina Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:52:12 +0000 http://www.safbaby.com/?p=645#comment-10373 I realize that if one toy is safe it does NOT mean all toys by the same company are safe but I am wondering specifically about HABA toys. Most of their rag dolls are made of the same or similar materials as Paola. We have HABA Nelly (Nele) and Lucas dolls. From the pictures and descriptions I have been able to find, their bodies and shoes are made of the same materials as Paola while clothes and hair are very similar to hers. Also, HABA carries a lot of "stamps of approval" for safety according to European and US standards. I know it is not a guarantee, so when we received the dolls and realized they were made in China, I researched HABA toys "to death" and came to the conclusion that these two are "most likely safe". Would you agree with that? What can I do to be sure? Thank you! I realize that if one toy is safe it does NOT mean all toys by the same company are safe but I am wondering specifically about HABA toys. Most of their rag dolls are made of the same or similar materials as Paola. We have HABA Nelly (Nele) and Lucas dolls. From the pictures and descriptions I have been able to find, their bodies and shoes are made of the same materials as Paola while clothes and hair are very similar to hers.

Also, HABA carries a lot of “stamps of approval” for safety according to European and US standards. I know it is not a guarantee, so when we received the dolls and realized they were made in China, I researched HABA toys “to death” and came to the conclusion that these two are “most likely safe”.

Would you agree with that? What can I do to be sure?

Thank you!

]]> By: Lina http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls/comment-page-1#comment-10367 Lina Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:41:01 +0000 http://www.safbaby.com/?p=645#comment-10367 OK, I am totally lost. After days of research, I recently bought this Kathe Kruse dog because it was said to be totally organic: http://www.amazon.com/Kathe-Kruse-Organic-Cuddle-Plush/dp/B002L5WCEE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326673422&sr=8-1 Doesn't it mean that it is NOT loaded with insecticides? OK, I am totally lost. After days of research, I recently bought this Kathe Kruse dog because it was said to be totally organic:

http://www.amazon.com/Kathe-Kruse-Organic-Cuddle-Plush/dp/B002L5WCEE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326673422&sr=8-1

Doesn’t it mean that it is NOT loaded with insecticides?

]]> By: tgh http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls/comment-page-1#comment-7953 tgh Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:00:40 +0000 http://www.safbaby.com/?p=645#comment-7953 how about the miniland dolls? how about the miniland dolls?

]]> By: safbaby http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls/comment-page-1#comment-7923 safbaby Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:22:19 +0000 http://www.safbaby.com/?p=645#comment-7923 Thanks Genya for letting us know. I emailed the company to show us lab reports to confirm your statement. Best! the SAFbaby mamas Thanks Genya for letting us know. I emailed the company to show us lab reports to confirm your statement. Best! the SAFbaby mamas

]]> By: Genya Welch http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls/comment-page-1#comment-7868 Genya Welch Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:21:45 +0000 http://www.safbaby.com/?p=645#comment-7868 I have found a PVC/vinyl free doll!!!!! I feel like I have won the lottery! All of the toys made by Battat are PVC/vinyl free, lead free, BPA free, and phthalate free. They make dolls called My Generation that come with a little story and look very similar to the American Girls dolls. The best part is that while American Girls dolls contain PVC/vinyl the BATTAT DOLLS DO NOT CONTAIN PVC/VINYL, LEAD, BPA, OR PHTHALATES!!! These dolls are super cute and the best part is they are sold right at Target! All of the Battat toys are sold at Target and on Target.com I have found a PVC/vinyl free doll!!!!! I feel like I have won the lottery! All of the toys made by Battat are PVC/vinyl free, lead free, BPA free, and phthalate free. They make dolls called My Generation that come with a little story and look very similar to the American Girls dolls. The best part is that while American Girls dolls contain PVC/vinyl the BATTAT DOLLS DO NOT CONTAIN PVC/VINYL, LEAD, BPA, OR PHTHALATES!!!

These dolls are super cute and the best part is they are sold right at Target! All of the Battat toys are sold at Target and on Target.com

]]> By: Christi http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls/comment-page-1#comment-6256 Christi Mon, 21 Nov 2011 22:01:17 +0000 http://www.safbaby.com/?p=645#comment-6256 My daughter picked a baby Stella doll to be her "baby" for when her brother arrived and after the conflicting reports about Manhattan toys Baby Stella doll in the comments, I decided to contact the company. They sent me the product safety information of all their product lines. According to the company, the baby Stella line is stuffed with PE pellets AND it is not treated with chemical fire retardants, yeah! It is, however, not machine washable which explains why it is not included on this list. We have a HABA doll as well, and really enjoy it but unfortunately they do not have any baby like dolls and I have yet to find clothing sets for the dolls. My daughter picked a baby Stella doll to be her “baby” for when her brother arrived and after the conflicting reports about Manhattan toys Baby Stella doll in the comments, I decided to contact the company. They sent me the product safety information of all their product lines. According to the company, the baby Stella line is stuffed with PE pellets AND it is not treated with chemical fire retardants, yeah! It is, however, not machine washable which explains why it is not included on this list. We have a HABA doll as well, and really enjoy it but unfortunately they do not have any baby like dolls and I have yet to find clothing sets for the dolls.

]]> By: Eileen http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls/comment-page-1#comment-4882 Eileen Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:38:45 +0000 http://www.safbaby.com/?p=645#comment-4882 Thanks for this article!! So in recently learning about Styrene Ethylene Butylene Styrene (SEBS) I am wondering if any of the manufacturers are making baby dolls of this material without PVC? May be a safer alternative? Thanks for this article!!
So in recently learning about Styrene Ethylene Butylene Styrene (SEBS) I am wondering if any of the manufacturers are making baby dolls of this material without PVC? May be a safer alternative?

]]> By: Genya Welch http://www.safbaby.com/in-search-of-pvc-free-baby-dolls/comment-page-1#comment-3884 Genya Welch Sun, 23 Jan 2011 17:14:55 +0000 http://www.safbaby.com/?p=645#comment-3884 I am trying to find a doll that is made out of silicone. I have found some dolls with a vinyl head and silicone arms and legs but none entirely made from silicone. Silicone would be a good alternative to vinyl for lifelike baby dolls. I am trying to find a doll that is made out of silicone. I have found some dolls with a vinyl head and silicone arms and legs but none entirely made from silicone. Silicone would be a good alternative to vinyl for lifelike baby dolls.

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