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		<title>By: todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>last night I put up a vinyl shower curtain I bought from the dollar store and the fumes were horrific.  I&#039;ve been using these curtains for years and smelled but last night, I experienced many of the side effects listed in the chart in this article.  That&#039;s never happened before and scared the daylights out of me.  I&#039;m finally starting to feel better but I&#039;ll never use a vinyl shower curtain again and will avoid vinyl products as much as I can.  It was horrific.  I went to Target and bought a polyester curtain. 
It reminds me of when my kids were babies and we used the playtex bottles with the disposable liners.  Those had a similar horrific smell and I have to wonder whether they are safe.  Even though they smelled bad, I trusted that Playtex wouldn&#039;t put a dangerous product out.  I don&#039;t know that the product is or isn&#039;t dangerous but it&#039;s got my curiosity.  
It seems like these things definitely need better oversight and regulation.  Then again, there are those who shun government intervention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>last night I put up a vinyl shower curtain I bought from the dollar store and the fumes were horrific.  I&#8217;ve been using these curtains for years and smelled but last night, I experienced many of the side effects listed in the chart in this article.  That&#8217;s never happened before and scared the daylights out of me.  I&#8217;m finally starting to feel better but I&#8217;ll never use a vinyl shower curtain again and will avoid vinyl products as much as I can.  It was horrific.  I went to Target and bought a polyester curtain.<br />
It reminds me of when my kids were babies and we used the playtex bottles with the disposable liners.  Those had a similar horrific smell and I have to wonder whether they are safe.  Even though they smelled bad, I trusted that Playtex wouldn&#8217;t put a dangerous product out.  I don&#8217;t know that the product is or isn&#8217;t dangerous but it&#8217;s got my curiosity.<br />
It seems like these things definitely need better oversight and regulation.  Then again, there are those who shun government intervention.</p>
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		<title>By: Unique Shower Curtains</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unique Shower Curtains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting such a wonderful post. It was very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting such a wonderful post. It was very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: southbaygourmet</title>
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		<dc:creator>southbaygourmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this apply to vinyl tablecloths as well? I am talking about the ones that have the cloth lining underneath. I haven&#039;t been able to dig up much information about those.  Thanks for your insight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this apply to vinyl tablecloths as well? I am talking about the ones that have the cloth lining underneath. I haven&#8217;t been able to dig up much information about those.  Thanks for your insight!</p>
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		<title>By: Barrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Joyce and Mike,

I went through all this a few years ago--I first tried a hemp shower curtain because I read that cotton would mildew or mold too easily in a damp environment like the shower.  Hemp was supposed to be mildew resistant, but unfortunately after about a year or so my hemp shower curtain had such bad mold spots that they started to eat through the fabric and I had holes.  At least it can be composted--but at $90+ for the &quot;Hom&quot; brand curtain at the time, I did not want to be buying one of these each year!

Finally I settled on getting a used nylon one from National Furniture Liquidators (http://nationalfurniture.net/);  they resell the used hotel furniture and supplies like sheets and shower curtains when the fancy hotels redecorate.  I bought a half dozen for $12, which is quite economical; however, I did go into the store to do this as they are local to me.  Maybe you could call them and ask if you can buy a bundle over the phone.  A half dozen isn&#039;t all that much anyway--I gave a couple to friends and kept the rest for future use just in case.  I also use one on my bed as a mattress protector under my wool protectors (got a toddler sleeping here who&#039;s not quite done potty-learning yet).  

Nylon is quite inert and I have never smelled any sort of chemical smell, maybe because it&#039;s used, but I seem to remember that my mom bought a nylon shower curtain at Target once and it did not smell like anything.  

Good luck!

Barrie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Joyce and Mike,</p>
<p>I went through all this a few years ago&#8211;I first tried a hemp shower curtain because I read that cotton would mildew or mold too easily in a damp environment like the shower.  Hemp was supposed to be mildew resistant, but unfortunately after about a year or so my hemp shower curtain had such bad mold spots that they started to eat through the fabric and I had holes.  At least it can be composted&#8211;but at $90+ for the &#8220;Hom&#8221; brand curtain at the time, I did not want to be buying one of these each year!</p>
<p>Finally I settled on getting a used nylon one from National Furniture Liquidators (<a href="http://nationalfurniture.net/" rel="nofollow">http://nationalfurniture.net/</a>);  they resell the used hotel furniture and supplies like sheets and shower curtains when the fancy hotels redecorate.  I bought a half dozen for $12, which is quite economical; however, I did go into the store to do this as they are local to me.  Maybe you could call them and ask if you can buy a bundle over the phone.  A half dozen isn&#8217;t all that much anyway&#8211;I gave a couple to friends and kept the rest for future use just in case.  I also use one on my bed as a mattress protector under my wool protectors (got a toddler sleeping here who&#8217;s not quite done potty-learning yet).  </p>
<p>Nylon is quite inert and I have never smelled any sort of chemical smell, maybe because it&#8217;s used, but I seem to remember that my mom bought a nylon shower curtain at Target once and it did not smell like anything.  </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Barrie</p>
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		<title>By: megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question, I bought some play mats for my 9mth old, From Wal-mart, they say they are made of Ethylene vinyl acetate, but have an odour, are they safe? Thanks for YOur help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question, I bought some play mats for my 9mth old, From Wal-mart, they say they are made of Ethylene vinyl acetate, but have an odour, are they safe? Thanks for YOur help!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schade, CHEJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Schade, CHEJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joyce,
Thanks for bringing that to our attention.  

Every year, we&#039;re learning more and more about the dangers of different plastics used in consumer products.  For instance, as you may be aware, this past year  there&#039;s been a lot of attention to bisphenol A, a chemical used to manufacture plastic polycarbonate baby bottles.

We did not &quot;endorse&quot; EVA or PEVA in our report for this very reason.  

From the research we&#039;ve seen, EVA and PEVA are preferable to PVC because:
1) They pose fewer lifecycle hazards, in terms of the chemicals used to manufacture them;
2) They are not chlorinated plastics, and therefore are not significant sources of dioxin during production and disposal (as PVC is);
3) We&#039;re not aware of any harmful chemical additives (such as phthalates, organotins, etc.) used to manufacture this plastic.

EVA and PEVA are not perfect though - they&#039;re still petrochemical based plastics - and we need to move away from the toxic petrochemical economy and move towards more sustainably produced products that are safe for workers, communities, consumers, and most importantly infants and children.

It&#039;s clear further research is needed into EVA and PEVA products to determine their safety.  Unfortunately, chemicals are not required for safety testing before they&#039;re put on the market.  The EPA lacks the regulatory authority to protect us from dangerous chemicals in our home.  That&#039;s why they haven&#039;t even been able to ban asbestos, which has a disease named after it!

I&#039;d love to learn more about the brand/design of the curtain of concern.  Could you e-mail that to me at mike@chej.org ?

In relation to &quot;what do I do now&quot; - the safest bet would be to look for a curtain made out of cloth such as cotton - organic cotton is preferable since the production of cotton typically involves lots of pesticides.

Best, 
Mike Schade, PVC Campaign Coordinator
Center for Health, Environment and Justice

Mike Schade
PVC Campaign Coordinator
The Center for Health, Environment and Justice (CHEJ)
9 Murray St. 3rd Fl.
NY, NY 10007
Phone: 212.964.3680
Fax: 212.349.1366
mike@chej.org 
http://www.besafenet.com/pvc 
http://www.chej.org 
 
Mentoring a movement, empowering people, preventing harm.
Love Canal...30 years later, the journey continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joyce,<br />
Thanks for bringing that to our attention.  </p>
<p>Every year, we&#8217;re learning more and more about the dangers of different plastics used in consumer products.  For instance, as you may be aware, this past year  there&#8217;s been a lot of attention to bisphenol A, a chemical used to manufacture plastic polycarbonate baby bottles.</p>
<p>We did not &#8220;endorse&#8221; EVA or PEVA in our report for this very reason.  </p>
<p>From the research we&#8217;ve seen, EVA and PEVA are preferable to PVC because:<br />
1) They pose fewer lifecycle hazards, in terms of the chemicals used to manufacture them;<br />
2) They are not chlorinated plastics, and therefore are not significant sources of dioxin during production and disposal (as PVC is);<br />
3) We&#8217;re not aware of any harmful chemical additives (such as phthalates, organotins, etc.) used to manufacture this plastic.</p>
<p>EVA and PEVA are not perfect though &#8211; they&#8217;re still petrochemical based plastics &#8211; and we need to move away from the toxic petrochemical economy and move towards more sustainably produced products that are safe for workers, communities, consumers, and most importantly infants and children.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear further research is needed into EVA and PEVA products to determine their safety.  Unfortunately, chemicals are not required for safety testing before they&#8217;re put on the market.  The EPA lacks the regulatory authority to protect us from dangerous chemicals in our home.  That&#8217;s why they haven&#8217;t even been able to ban asbestos, which has a disease named after it!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to learn more about the brand/design of the curtain of concern.  Could you e-mail that to me at <a href="mailto:mike@chej.org">mike@chej.org</a> ?</p>
<p>In relation to &#8220;what do I do now&#8221; &#8211; the safest bet would be to look for a curtain made out of cloth such as cotton &#8211; organic cotton is preferable since the production of cotton typically involves lots of pesticides.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Mike Schade, PVC Campaign Coordinator<br />
Center for Health, Environment and Justice</p>
<p>Mike Schade<br />
PVC Campaign Coordinator<br />
The Center for Health, Environment and Justice (CHEJ)<br />
9 Murray St. 3rd Fl.<br />
NY, NY 10007<br />
Phone: 212.964.3680<br />
Fax: 212.349.1366<br />
<a href="mailto:mike@chej.org">mike@chej.org</a><br />
<a href="http://www.besafenet.com/pvc" rel="nofollow">http://www.besafenet.com/pvc</a><br />
<a href="http://www.chej.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.chej.org</a> </p>
<p>Mentoring a movement, empowering people, preventing harm.<br />
Love Canal&#8230;30 years later, the journey continues.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this really the most significant household hazard we have to worry about?

In response to Joyce, PEVA is naturally soft and flexible, as opposed to PVC which needs additives to attain these properties.  So if you believe the small quantities of phthalates and other softeners that can leach out are likely to cause damage, PEVA may be less likely to leach those chemicals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this really the most significant household hazard we have to worry about?</p>
<p>In response to Joyce, PEVA is naturally soft and flexible, as opposed to PVC which needs additives to attain these properties.  So if you believe the small quantities of phthalates and other softeners that can leach out are likely to cause damage, PEVA may be less likely to leach those chemicals.</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still concerned about the PVC shower curtain info. that I now am informed with.
I went to buy a 100% PEVA shower curtain at Target, and I opened the package to smell the plastic,
and it still smelled Horrible!  The smell was of strong toxic chemicals, and I couldn&#039;t bare to purchase
it.  I just can&#039;t believe that it is a safer alternative to my old PVC shower curtain that has been outgassed
and no longer smells.  I am confused.
Has there been the same 28 day study on PEVA and EVA as has been done on PVC?
How are we certain that they are truly a safer alternative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still concerned about the PVC shower curtain info. that I now am informed with.<br />
I went to buy a 100% PEVA shower curtain at Target, and I opened the package to smell the plastic,<br />
and it still smelled Horrible!  The smell was of strong toxic chemicals, and I couldn&#8217;t bare to purchase<br />
it.  I just can&#8217;t believe that it is a safer alternative to my old PVC shower curtain that has been outgassed<br />
and no longer smells.  I am confused.<br />
Has there been the same 28 day study on PEVA and EVA as has been done on PVC?<br />
How are we certain that they are truly a safer alternative?</p>
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		<title>By: Autumn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Autumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info.  I found my cloth liner at Wal-Mart.  They also carried EVA made liners.  I chose a cloth liner based on the additional qualities.....weighted bottom, suction cups on sides, grommets for hanging......but both were priced well.  

I must add.....I tried Bed, Bath and Beyond first and found only PVC liners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info.  I found my cloth liner at Wal-Mart.  They also carried EVA made liners.  I chose a cloth liner based on the additional qualities&#8230;..weighted bottom, suction cups on sides, grommets for hanging&#8230;&#8230;but both were priced well.  </p>
<p>I must add&#8230;..I tried Bed, Bath and Beyond first and found only PVC liners.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Thank you for posting this. They smell horribly toxic so it&#039;s no wonder they are hazardous to your health. Geez. 

Thanks for posting safe alternatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Thank you for posting this. They smell horribly toxic so it&#8217;s no wonder they are hazardous to your health. Geez. </p>
<p>Thanks for posting safe alternatives.</p>
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